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#1 2012-05-31 13:50:42

Diefoto
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Early V4 gets muddy when driven hard

Hey guys/gals,

I have an early V4 that I've been playing with the "Marshall" settings (from the original manual) that when driven hard i.e electro-harmonix LB1 and a Death by Audio "Fuzzwar" gets pretty muddy. I'm confident the amp is in tip-top shape and have a great tech by the name of Brian Sours at Sour-Sound here in Portland who has always worked on it for me. My amp is running the 6550s.

I'm wondering if anyone has run into this kind of thing, I've heard other bands play V4s and get a remarkably "Tight" sounding distortion/drive from their amps so I know it can be attained. I should mention I play music in the vein of The Melvins, High on Fire, etc... As I stated, I'm 99% sure this isn't a problem with the amp itself, just the settings im using, pedals or possibly both. Someone told me last night I might try rolling back the mids a bit?

Any help would be much appreciated-

Max

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#2 2012-05-31 18:00:38

hangman
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Re: Early V4 gets muddy when driven hard

Have you tried adjusting the eq to your liking?   Rather than going off of a recommended setting from the manual?

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#3 2012-05-31 18:12:11

Diefoto
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Re: Early V4 gets muddy when driven hard

I have to some degree, I know I should probably just take a day and experiment. With all the rocker switches involved there's quite a bit of options that one can choose from.I guess I'm just looking for a starting point.

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#4 2012-05-31 18:36:35

hangman
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Re: Early V4 gets muddy when driven hard

I'd say just start with them all at 12 o'clock and the ultra high off.

The adjust as needed.   If it is too bassy,  remember that you can either boost highs OR you could cut lows.   
i.e.   when the controls are at 12 o'clock, the frequency response is flat.
If you turn the bass to10 o'clock,  you are reducing the bass response. 
When you turn it to 2 o'clock,  it is boosting it.   Make sense?

I recommend not getting carried away with the eq.  Too much eq can be a bad thing

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#5 2012-05-31 18:57:17

Diefoto
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Re: Early V4 gets muddy when driven hard

That makes total sense. Thanks for the help hangman!!! Ill try that tomorrow and let ya know how it goes-

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#6 2012-05-31 19:14:41

hangman
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Re: Early V4 gets muddy when driven hard

It's a bit odd coming from a Marshall or fender,  as those eq circuits are just cutting.  The ampeg eq circuit is incredibly flexible... But it can be tough to get the hang of it.

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#7 2012-07-20 15:31:23

Diefoto
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Re: Early V4 gets muddy when driven hard

Hey Hangman, I did what you suggested and I have finally dialed in the sound I've always wanted. Thanks so much for your help-

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